Talk about corporate greed and everything is really crucially beside the point, in my view, and really should be recognized as a very big regression from what working people, and a lot of others, understood very well a century ago. Talk about corporate greed is nonsense. Corporations are greedy by their nature. Theyre nothing else they are instruments for interfering with markets to maximize profit, and wealth and market control. You cant make them more or less greedy; I mean maybe you can sort of force them, but its like taking a totalitarian state and saying Be less brutal! Well yeah, maybe you can get a totalitarian state to be less brutal, but thats not the point the point is not to get a tyranny to be less brutal, but to get rid of it. Now 150 years ago, that was understood. If you read the labour press there was a very lively labour press, right around here [Massachusetts] ; Lowell and Lawrence and places like that, around the mid nineteenth century, run by artisans and what they called factory girls; young women from the farms who were working there they werent asking the autocracy to be less brutal, they were saying get rid of it. And in fact that makes perfect sense; these are human institutions, theres nothing graven in stone about them. They [corporations] were created early in this century with their present powers, they come from the same intellectual roots as the other modern forms of totalitarianism namely Stalinism and Fascism and they have no more legitimacy than they do. I mean yeah, lets try and make the autocracy less brutal if thats the short term possibility but we should have the sophistication of, say, factory girls in Lowell 150 years ago and recognize that this is just degrading and intolerable and that, as they put it those who work in the mills should own them And on to everything else, and thats democracy if you dont have that, you dont have democracy.